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	<title>Comments on: Campaigns, Washington Debate Could Make Threatened Workers Bitter</title>
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		<title>By: Teri B.</title>
		<link>http://workforce.com/wpmu/washington/2008/04/16/campaigns-washington-debate-could-make-threatened-workers-bitter/#comment-2994</link>
		<author>Teri B.</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This debate was the most fair one yet. I liked that the responses were timed, and each were given an equal amount of time. I liked that the questions were staggered, and that they "flipped a coin" to see who would go first on opening and closings. I was impressed that both were challenged with tough questions and not allowed to wiggle out of fully answering. 

ABC handled this debate in a very admirable way, and I think both candidates supporters should have been satisfied with the fairness of the debate, for a change. This is how journalists should handle debates. Both got tough questions.

My main observation is that Clinton was ASKED questions about her positions on Wright and Obama's bitter comments, and she responded, owning her position, while Obama hedged on the Bosnia question, admitting his "campaign" was hammering on it, "of course," yet somehow dodging personal responsibility for what his campaign is doing? That just seemed dishonest to me. If his campaign is doing it - HE is. I'd much rather see the candidates own their positions and actions, than try and appear above the fray, when their actions don't match the perception they're trying to falsely portray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This debate was the most fair one yet. I liked that the responses were timed, and each were given an equal amount of time. I liked that the questions were staggered, and that they &#8220;flipped a coin&#8221; to see who would go first on opening and closings. I was impressed that both were challenged with tough questions and not allowed to wiggle out of fully answering. </p>
<p>ABC handled this debate in a very admirable way, and I think both candidates supporters should have been satisfied with the fairness of the debate, for a change. This is how journalists should handle debates. Both got tough questions.</p>
<p>My main observation is that Clinton was ASKED questions about her positions on Wright and Obama&#8217;s bitter comments, and she responded, owning her position, while Obama hedged on the Bosnia question, admitting his &#8220;campaign&#8221; was hammering on it, &#8220;of course,&#8221; yet somehow dodging personal responsibility for what his campaign is doing? That just seemed dishonest to me. If his campaign is doing it - HE is. I&#8217;d much rather see the candidates own their positions and actions, than try and appear above the fray, when their actions don&#8217;t match the perception they&#8217;re trying to falsely portray.</p>
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		<title>By: MsSwin</title>
		<link>http://workforce.com/wpmu/washington/2008/04/16/campaigns-washington-debate-could-make-threatened-workers-bitter/#comment-2990</link>
		<author>MsSwin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Hillary doesn't get is this isn't about black, white, elite, redneck etc. It should be about uniting all the various segments in American rather than divide them in Carl Rove fashion.  It's about beating John McCain. Yet her latest Rove style strategy has her campaign insinuating that the Montana Yellowstone County Commissioner ''picked Clinton only after he heard Barack Obama’s now famous “bitter” comments. But Kennedy told FOX News on Tuesday that he decided on Clinton long before that. “I had been leaning toward Hillary for months,” Kennedy said. “I actually decided to endorse her two weeks ago.”

Think about it.  If someone created a website which allowed us to vote on one simple question, 'are we bitter about how things have been going here in the United States', do you think the happy campers would 'win' or do you think the Americans who are fed up, been pushed down, passed over and trickled on would outnumber those who prefer to wear blinders or blindly put a politician above the interests of their party or the interests of our country.
  
For Hillary to try to twist Obama's words in this regard is beyond her normal campaign games, it's an act of desperation.  When more google for information on her pastor and spritual advisor, Doug Coe, they may come to realize it is all a game to her.  When they google through all the campaign lies alone, whether it's bullets flying, joining the Marines or simply her stands on issues, they will realize we'll be the losers in these games.

If we want to discuss someone out of touch or elitist, think about the string of unpaid bills Clinton has left in every state she's been in, bills owed to small vendors. Consider why one would fork out $26,000 for an orchestra for a fundraiser yet not pay her workers' health insurance premiums for two months. Is that not elitist?

Bill is now trying to help Hillary again but he needs to clean up his own front porch first.  His charities not only support Alibaba, Inc., accused of collaborating with the government in its crackdown on Tibetan activists, his scholarships finance schools in Dubai who won't even accept Israeli students. Perhaps after Bill's Columbian deal hitting the news about the same time as his charity gaffes they needed a bit of wmd.. weapon of mass distraction.
 
Was Bill taking advantage of a young girl in his employ not elitist?  Was his putting himself above her interests, the interests of his family, the Democratic Party and our country somehow not elitist?

Perhaps Bill needs to do twenty years of community service in the south side of Chicago to get a grip on what constitutes an elitist, or try to feed a family on food stamps.

Hillary needs to figure out which political party she works for.  I have yet to hear her rally her people to vote Democrat no matter who wins the nomination.  Not one word.  I thought the whole idea was to beat McCain, not hand him on a silver platter 28% of the Democratic vote.

And btw, we were fooled by a beer drinking party guy trying to act like the common man before, look where it got us.  And if using that campaign game is not elitist, I'll eat my hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Hillary doesn&#8217;t get is this isn&#8217;t about black, white, elite, redneck etc. It should be about uniting all the various segments in American rather than divide them in Carl Rove fashion.  It&#8217;s about beating John McCain. Yet her latest Rove style strategy has her campaign insinuating that the Montana Yellowstone County Commissioner &#8221;picked Clinton only after he heard Barack Obama’s now famous “bitter” comments. But Kennedy told FOX News on Tuesday that he decided on Clinton long before that. “I had been leaning toward Hillary for months,” Kennedy said. “I actually decided to endorse her two weeks ago.”</p>
<p>Think about it.  If someone created a website which allowed us to vote on one simple question, &#8216;are we bitter about how things have been going here in the United States&#8217;, do you think the happy campers would &#8216;win&#8217; or do you think the Americans who are fed up, been pushed down, passed over and trickled on would outnumber those who prefer to wear blinders or blindly put a politician above the interests of their party or the interests of our country.</p>
<p>For Hillary to try to twist Obama&#8217;s words in this regard is beyond her normal campaign games, it&#8217;s an act of desperation.  When more google for information on her pastor and spritual advisor, Doug Coe, they may come to realize it is all a game to her.  When they google through all the campaign lies alone, whether it&#8217;s bullets flying, joining the Marines or simply her stands on issues, they will realize we&#8217;ll be the losers in these games.</p>
<p>If we want to discuss someone out of touch or elitist, think about the string of unpaid bills Clinton has left in every state she&#8217;s been in, bills owed to small vendors. Consider why one would fork out $26,000 for an orchestra for a fundraiser yet not pay her workers&#8217; health insurance premiums for two months. Is that not elitist?</p>
<p>Bill is now trying to help Hillary again but he needs to clean up his own front porch first.  His charities not only support Alibaba, Inc., accused of collaborating with the government in its crackdown on Tibetan activists, his scholarships finance schools in Dubai who won&#8217;t even accept Israeli students. Perhaps after Bill&#8217;s Columbian deal hitting the news about the same time as his charity gaffes they needed a bit of wmd.. weapon of mass distraction.</p>
<p>Was Bill taking advantage of a young girl in his employ not elitist?  Was his putting himself above her interests, the interests of his family, the Democratic Party and our country somehow not elitist?</p>
<p>Perhaps Bill needs to do twenty years of community service in the south side of Chicago to get a grip on what constitutes an elitist, or try to feed a family on food stamps.</p>
<p>Hillary needs to figure out which political party she works for.  I have yet to hear her rally her people to vote Democrat no matter who wins the nomination.  Not one word.  I thought the whole idea was to beat McCain, not hand him on a silver platter 28% of the Democratic vote.</p>
<p>And btw, we were fooled by a beer drinking party guy trying to act like the common man before, look where it got us.  And if using that campaign game is not elitist, I&#8217;ll eat my hat.</p>
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